![]() Tor does, in fact, use encryption to transfer information. But if you've configured your computer wrong, which probably more than 50 per cent of the people using Tor have, you can still find the person (on) the other side." Although this is a quote from a person, the information he gives in part is very misleading. Not only do they think it's encrypted, but they also think 'no one can find me'. "People think they're protected just because they use Tor. If anything, this article must remain neutral to that conflict. To address your concern of NPOV: my motives do not dictate what is NPOV, and even if they did, it certainly does not mean including both Matt and Jamon's sites. ![]() I propose to have only a good mirror of hidden services (Xiando), a good list of hidden services (The Hidden Wiki), and The Tor Project page as a hidden service. We run the risk of making certain hidden services de facto "central sites" if we spam them here. Further, what evidence is there that core.onion or onionforum are "central sites" of hidden services? Hidden services are decentralized, and the term "central sites" is a misnomer. I also added a mirror of hidden service indexes that is not itself a hidden service. I also added the Tor Project hidden service page. It is now back up (and has been for some time), and offers one of the best points of entry to hidden services, as it is one of the best lists of hidden services. Snaxe/fow ( talk) 05:28, (UTC) As the one who removed core.onion and onionforum, I would like to assure you that it had nothing at all to do with anything regarding "Matt vs Jamon." The reason I added The Hidden Wiki is because it was linked from the actual Tor Project itself and was in this article before it temporarily went down. If that is the case, then NPOV would mean including both Matt and Jamon's sites, the Hidden Wiki and core.onion. Part of me thinks this was removed because of the whole "Matt vs Jamon" thing going on. It's one of the longest running hidden services, and it's regarded as a fairly stable one. Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.134.86.192 ( talk) 00:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)Ĭore.onion should stay. This should definitely be in this article. It is an index of hidden services that is not itself a hidden service. Does that sound good? ManaUser ( talk) 02:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC) I suggest HiddenServices - Xiando at. I have added the following note: There is no official index of hidden services, but a number of third-party hidden services exist to serve this purpose. It's as good an index as any, but I think it's important to note that despite it's official-looking appearance it is not part of the Tor Project. It's a bit strange bit it's not a "joke". IMO The core.onion page is a joke, can we remove it from the Tor article? -Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.80.200.138 ( talk) 08:10, 28 January 2008 (UTC) Do you have any suggestions? 90.135.249.238 ( talk) 00:03, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
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